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by ronking
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well gary if you see nothing wrong with it why do you people always have to defend snipingThat's possibly the most ridiculous logic i've ever heard. That if something needs to be defended it's wrong... the church needs to be defended constantly, religions in general, establishments that are heralded, by some, to be the definition of morality defend them selves constantly...does that make them wrong?... or immoral? NO... i personally lend them no weight... nor consider them moral or relevent... But the point is that you're a moron...
And snipers are fine because if someone's maximum bid is high enough they'll win it anyway... if they were smart, their maximum bid would be they're maximum bid and it would be what they're willing to pay and not need to be amended due to outside interference.
Peace love and intelligence to all
There is absolutely, positively, nothing 'wrong' with sniping on Ebay. The sniper bid higher than you, correct? If you wanted the item more, BID MORE, you'll win then.....Sincerely, Seasoned Sniper, Counter-Sniper, Death by Sniper, Lost Item by Sniper
If ebay really wanted they could discourage the practice by doing what live auctions do, You extend the auction say 5 minutes after each bid, Then the person willing to pay more for the item would get it. But where's the fun in that, says ebay, then most buyers would not buy at all, and since I really don't give a rat ass that the seller gets the maximum price, I'll allow sniping...more buyer more money...muahahah.
I have had to result to sniping just to beat the snipers. I do not agree with it. And I do not agree with the "highest Price" theory. If I am willing to pay $20 for an item, and that is "about" the highest I figure I'll go, then how is it fair that item gets sniped at the last second for $20.50. I think I would have been willing to add the extra $.50! IF that person was willing to pay $50 and I was not, then THAT would be fair. Lets face it, sniping is done by those who want the item for the cheapest possible. Wanting a good bargain is GREAT, but not when you sneakily prevent others from having a chance to get what you want. This is unfair to the seller and to those who would be willing to pay a bit more as I previously mentioned. I would like to be fair, and wait and see what bidder is willing to eventually pay more than I ( like auctions in PERSON) but I have had to result to this technique to fight all those who do it. I just think it is rude and bad etiquette and selfish and cheap, but hey, I guess in cyber auctions, you fight fire with fire. Happy sniping, I'll be sniping ya right back.You should value the item coldly. You shouldn't put in 'about' the highest price you're willing to go, you should put in the *exact* price you think it's worth. If you suddenly decide after the auction that you would have paid more, you're just being emotional and viewing the auction as a competition. It isn't. It is a cold business transaction. See it that way and learn.
I think sniping is BS and eBay CAN put in measures in place to stop it: How? Well real live auctions use a "going once, going twice" technique and do not end at an arbitrary point in time. If a bid comes in at the very last second, it should extend the length of the auction (within limits). Some sellers might not like this because it extends the time until they get paid BUT it will lead to higher sale prices. Ebay snipers artificially surpress prices because they are preventing another bidder from winning who was ready and willing to pay more for the item than what the item was won for.
Sniping hurts the seller. If two or more bidders are willing to go higher, sniping prevents them from bidding against each other and therefore suppresses the maximum price the item could go for. Anyone who says it's hurting nobody is delusional. If I'm happy to pay $50 for an item but some sniping p---k snipes me at the last second and gets the item for $40, then I miss out on the item I wanted and the seller misses out on money. Snipers suck.If you are happy to pay $50 for an item, then why don't you put down $50 as your maximum bid? Why do you complain because someone got it for $40 when you "were happy to pay $50?" You too want the best price you can get. The seller missed out on getting the higher price because you were too cheap to enter it. Not because of sniping. Snipers will only put the maximum they will pay. Do the same and you might win.
I love sniping, it is an adrenelin rush and pure fun. It is matching wits with other bidders and taking an item away from them at the last seconds. And what;s wrong with that, afterall I want the item just as bad. If I couldn't snipe, I probably would quit bidding. So go suck a lemon yourself spoilsport.
The thing about sniping is that you have been waiting for an item for a very long time, that you have really been preparing to get it, that you have waited your time and outbid everyone else and at the last second, some person decides to snipe and you lose your item. It isn't fair, it isn't fun, and I've lost a lot of items to it. There is not a good way to beat this act of extreme annoyance. The best way is when you know the time is approaching when sniping will occur, be near your computer and your phone, and make sure that you et automatic updates as to when it is bid on. if you are sniped, then bid as fast as you can and hope for the best. My only other words are don't snipe unless it's something you've been bidding on. Don't be the fag who suddenly appears and takes away someone's item.
EBay’s definition of sniping:SnipingPlacing a bid in the closing minutes or seconds of an auction-style listing. Any bid, placed before the listing ends, is allowed on eBay. To protect yourself from being outbid at the last moment, enter the maximum amount you're willing to pay for an item up front, and eBay will bid automatically for you, making sure you're the high bidder until your maximum is reached. This system is sometimes called proxy bidding.Proxy BiddingThe feature of an auction-style listing in which eBay automatically bids on the buyer's behalf, up to the maximum amount they set. Enter the maximum amount you're willing to spend on an item, and eBay will continue to bid incrementally for you until either you're the high bidder or your maximum is reached. This means you don't have to keep coming back to bid every time someone else places a bid.eBay likes sniping, so if you don't like being sniped buy your items elsewhere. I don't like being sniped so I don't use eBay. I go to Amazon.
According to Ebay's policy, Sniping is TOTALLY OK. What you mentioned in this article---to "email the seller and make an offer for a similar item" outside of Ebay is ILLEGAL and something Ebay does not condone. Simply because Ebay doesn't make money off of it and the buyer/seller has no protection from fraud/counterfeit/damaged goods, etc. Sniping is totally OK. If you don't want to be sniped, then put the highest you are willing to pay for the item. Or if you are a seller and you want a higher amount of money for your item, then start at the higher rate in the auction or put a reserve price on the item.
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